i did all these big stars and stuff. and i was struck by how confident she was. >> as i was doing my first series "d.o.c." and miley, she kept saying, daddy, can they write something in for me? so they wrote her in one episode. from the time she did that episode, she was -- can they write me in next week? can they write me in next week? a few weeks after that, she and i went to see "mamma mia" in toronto and i'll never forget it. it was that combination of acting and the performance on stage, the singers. and she said, that's what i want to do. and she -- she started studying, like, i mean -- it was like on the radar of, i'm going to be a great actress and this is what i'm going to do. and she just started -- like there was no -- she burnt all bridges of everything else. i'm going to be a great actress and a singer/songwriter. this is what i'm going to do. and she applied herself. >> obviously like any teenager, just like a dad, fell off the rails a little bit. i mean, not i don't think that bad to be honest with you. ta